Claim: “The W.L. Craig Kalam Cosmological Argument proves God exists.”

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  • *V*@tzioneretzIf everything needs to have a cause, then so does “god.” Who/what created “him”? And if the response is that “god” is “eternal” and needs no creator, then why can the same not hold true for the universe? By the way, which “god” are we talking about?”
  • *V*-@FreeAtheism: We actually can’t verify that there are no causeless things.  We are not omniscient and cannot verify all the forces and events of the universe, to then know they all have causes.
  • *V*-“@FreeAtheism: If the the Kalam Cosmo argument worked, AT BEST it gets you to an unknown cause and not a conscious one. Certainly no deity.”


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3 thoughts on “Claim: “The W.L. Craig Kalam Cosmological Argument proves God exists.”

    • Any supernatural claim of the cause is simply fallacious. A god has never been shown to exist, let alone be a legit cause for anything. Its saying Kalam shows the Faerie King did it… its utterly stupid.

      • tzioneretz: Your comments regarding “who made God?” have been addressed many times. Here is a link to one of the most cogent explanations I have heard dealing with this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxL8AwT7ObY

        FreeAtheism: you state, “We are not omniscient and cannot verify all the forces and events of the universe, to then know they all have causes.” I think the rationale is as follows: Forces exist (gravitational, nuclear, magnetic, etc.). If someone is going to give this some serious scientific thought the logical question to ask is “what best explains the origin of these forces?” The possibilities then begin to head toward the metaphysical/philosophical realm – Either they were “created”, or “they just ‘are’ and we may never know why”. Essentially, this boils down to “why is there ‘something’, rather than ‘nothing’?” Many people come to the conclusion that there is “something”, and an omnipotent god is quite literally the ONLY VIABLE option that could possibly explain it. It’s not that they can’t think of a “better” answer, so they “plug the hole” with “God”. The idea of ‘something’ coming from ‘nothing’ is nonsensical and defies the laws of logic that we all rely on every minute of the day to make sense of reality.

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